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1ProvGov Senate Empty ProvGov Senate on Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:34 pm

Christopher S.

Christopher S.
Administrator
Administrator
Because our nation is now facing issues on a diplomatic scale, I hereby convene this Senate as the temporary chair.

The first order of business shall be to elect a President of the Senate (since we do not have a vice-president, the president of the senate will not be called pres. pro tem. because he is not a temporary pres.).

With this in mind, I open nominations for President of the Senate.

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2ProvGov Senate Empty Re: ProvGov Senate on Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:00 pm

gmx0

gmx0
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I nominate Persia! Twisted Evil

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3ProvGov Senate Empty Re: ProvGov Senate on Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:06 pm

Christopher S.

Christopher S.
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Persia, do you accept the nomination?

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4ProvGov Senate Empty Re: ProvGov Senate on Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:50 pm

Persia

Persia
Squire
Squire
Wow, thanks to Christopher for telling me about this! Shocked

It sounds like fun... I'll accept if ya'll will help me know what I'm supposed to do with my duties and all... Thanks!

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5ProvGov Senate Empty Re: ProvGov Senate on Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:55 pm

Christopher S.

Christopher S.
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We definitely shall help you in whatever way we can. Smile

Persia has accepted the nomination. Because of our dire situation, we must move quickly. So, I hereby close the nominations and call a vote.

All in favor of electing Persia to be the President of the Senate, say "Aye". All opposed, say "Nay".

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6ProvGov Senate Empty Re: ProvGov Senate on Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:56 pm

Christopher S.

Christopher S.
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Also, Sam, could you post the number of Senators and how many are Democrats and Republicans?

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7ProvGov Senate Empty Re: ProvGov Senate on Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:56 am

gmx0

gmx0
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Christopher S. wrote:Also, Sam, could you post the number of Senators and how many are Democrats and Republicans?
Two Senators each,
so...
Alaska 2
Montana 2
Ohio 2
Texas 2
California 2

10 total

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8ProvGov Senate Empty Re: ProvGov Senate on Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:45 pm

sky-opera

sky-opera
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Moderator
Aye

9ProvGov Senate Empty Re: ProvGov Senate on Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:09 am

Christopher S.

Christopher S.
Administrator
Administrator
gmx0 wrote:
Christopher S. wrote:Also, Sam, could you post the number of Senators and how many are Democrats and Republicans?
Two Senators each,
so...
Alaska 2
Montana 2
Ohio 2
Texas 2
California 2

10 total
Right, I forgot that we are the senators.

Thus far, there are four in favor, none against. Are there any further votes? (Yes Persia, you may vote for yourself)

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10ProvGov Senate Empty Re: ProvGov Senate on Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:08 pm

gmx0

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Aye

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11ProvGov Senate Empty Re: ProvGov Senate on Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:49 pm

Persia

Persia
Squire
Squire
Christopher S. wrote:
Thus far, there are four in favor, none against. Are there any further votes? (Yes Persia, you may vote for yourself)
Are there any other choices? Laughing

Aye

Thanks yall!

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12ProvGov Senate Empty Re: ProvGov Senate on Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:26 pm

Christopher S.

Christopher S.
Administrator
Administrator
The voting is closed. With eight in favor and none against, Persia is hereby declared the President of the Senate. I hereby give the chair to her. *steps down*

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13ProvGov Senate Empty Re: ProvGov Senate on Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:11 pm

sky-opera

sky-opera
Moderator
Moderator
Madam President, I move that the bill in the Clerk's Desk for Senate be brought to the floor to be debated.

14ProvGov Senate Empty Re: ProvGov Senate on Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:23 pm

Persia

Persia
Squire
Squire
Thank you, Senators! I am humbled and honored to be elected for this position, and will strive to fulfill my office to the best of my ability. Smile

Senator Sky, do you refer to this bill? [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

And if so, do I just paste the bill into a post on this thread? [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]



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15ProvGov Senate Empty Re: ProvGov Senate on Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:26 pm

Christopher S.

Christopher S.
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Administrator
Yes, she does. It would be S.1, or the American Sovereignty Act.

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16ProvGov Senate Empty Re: ProvGov Senate on Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:29 pm

Persia

Persia
Squire
Squire
Aha. Thank you, Senator Christopher. Very Happy

Would the clerk please read S.1, the first bill on the docket? (Is this how it goes?)

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17ProvGov Senate Empty Re: ProvGov Senate on Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:04 pm

sky-opera

sky-opera
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Moderator
Persia wrote:Aha. Thank you, Senator Christopher. Very Happy

Would the clerk please read S.1, the first bill on the docket? (Is this how it goes?)

Yes.
Generally, though the President or Speaker will just post the bill so everyone can see it where they will begin discussion/debate, because we need your permission to start. Very Happy You formally open discussions.
Otherwise we will need to probably vote on a formal clerk, because right now I do not know that we have an officially designated clerk. Here are a few of some of the duties of President of the Senate that I looked up, though they may differ here based on our constitution and government:


"Casting Vote

Making a casting vote is the primary duty of the president of the Senate. This happens when there is a tie deadlocking the voting on a bill. This is the only time that the president of the Senate has the ability to vote on a bill. (It probably won't matter if you vote on most of the bills. I do in the House because its a small group although technically my vote is supposed to be rarely used, but I do try to wait till everyone else has voted.)
Ceremony

The president of the Senate presides over the swearing in of a new senator. This is a formal and ceremonial affair. If the vice president is unavailable, the Senate chooses a president por tempore to act on behalf of the vice president. This is usually the eldest member of the majority party.
Joint Session

An important duty of the president in the Senate is to preside when there is a joint session between the Senate and the House of Representatives. The joint session that the Constitution requires the vice president to preside over in the role of president of the Senate is in counting the electoral votes after a presidential election." Credit to ehow.com




(On not having a clerk, please anyone correct me if I'm wrong on that.)

18ProvGov Senate Empty Re: ProvGov Senate on Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:36 pm

Christopher S.

Christopher S.
Administrator
Administrator
sky-opera wrote:
Yes.
Generally, though the President or Speaker will just post the bill so everyone can see it where they will begin discussion/debate, because we need your permission to start. Very Happy You formally open discussions.
Otherwise we will need to probably vote on a formal clerk, because right now I do not know that we have an officially designated clerk.
(On not having a clerk, please anyone correct me if I'm wrong on that.)
Yes, we do not technically have a clerk as of now. But, no matter, I can be the clerk pro tem.

Here is S.1:

AMERICAN PROVISIONAL GOVERNMENT
Committee:
Principal Author: Senator Christopher S.
Bill No: S. 1
Delegation:
Title of Bill: An Act to Strengthen National Sovereignty

BE IT ENACTED BY THE AMERICAN PROVISIONAL GOVERNMENT

Preamble: Whereas H.R.2 was passed and our military has begun to restore order to our nation, and our own military, along with our law enforcement officers, shall be able to deal with the current violence, and since we no longer need the help of the United Nations' Peacekeepers,
SECTION1: This bill may be called the, "American Sovereignty Act".
SECTION 2: The United States' Representative to the United Nations shall ask the United Nations to not send Peacekeepers to our nation. He shall show them how the violence is slowing and our forces are strong enough to bring back order and peace. However, he shall let the United Nations know that if the violence on our borders gets out of control, we shall ask for the aid of Peacekeepers.
SECTION 3: Smuggling drugs across the U.S.-Mexican border shall be considered treason against the United States and shall be punished accordingly. Aiding, or being a member of, the Mexican Drug Cartel, shall also be considered treason against the United States.
Sub-SECTION 1: The Military shall have the power to enforce this law.
Sub-SECTION 2: The Military shall have the power to bring criminals to trial at the proper Federal court who are suspected of or caught-
A) Smuggling drugs across the U.S.-Mexico border, or
B) Aiding or being a member of the Mexican Drug Cartel.
SECTION 4: Aiding or being a member of any anarchic organization, or any organization that violently defies the laws and sovereignty of the United States, shall be considered treason. The State Governors shall have the power to enforce this law and ask the Federal Military for assistance.
SECTION 5: All traffic between the U.S.-Mexican border shall be declared illegal. The punishment for crossing the border shall be:
Sub-SECTION 1: Instant deportment for the first offence,
Sub-SECTION 2: Fifteen years in Federal Prison for the subsequent offences.
SECTION 6: Thirty thousand military soldiers shall be sent to the U.S.-Mexican border in order to secure the border.
SECTION 7: All U.S. troops, including the Army, Navy, Marines, and Air Force, shall be evacuated from all foreign bases and posts. These bases shall be sold to the nations in which they reside. These soldiers shall be used to help quell the violence in our nation.
SECTION 8: With the money gained from the selling of foreign bases, a semi-private watchdog organization shall be set up. This organization shall:
Sub-SECTION 1: Investigate the corruption of government officials,
Sub-SECTION 2: Report their findings both to the Congress and to the State Governors.
The State Governors shall use these findings to convict and impeach these corrupt officials according to the laws of the several States.
SECTION 9: In order to discern the further needs of our military and how long the writ of Habeus Corpus needs to be suspended, two of our top Generals shall be called to speak before the House of Representatives and answer questions from Congressmen. They shall be called up three days after this bill is passed and shall remain in the House of Representatives until released by the House.
SECTION 10: This bill shall go into effect two days after passage.

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19ProvGov Senate Empty Re: ProvGov Senate on Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:54 pm

gmx0

gmx0
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Is this up for debate on the floor?

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20ProvGov Senate Empty Re: ProvGov Senate on Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:16 pm

sky-opera

sky-opera
Moderator
Moderator
gmx0 wrote:Is this up for debate on the floor?

Well I believe this would be the floor of the Senate; because we are using the Prov Gov/Clerk's Desk thread as the House of Rep.s floor. It should just probably be renamed.

This would be the floor of the test Mock Senate, unless we are in a joint session of the Senate and House, which we are not currently so....

Also because Madam President has had the clerk read the bill; I think it is officially open for debate on the floor, but I'm not totally sure....

21ProvGov Senate Empty Re: ProvGov Senate on Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:04 am

Persia

Persia
Squire
Squire
Thank you for explaining that, Sky!

If I'm not mistaken, I think that now I ask if the author of this bill would like to speak on it, and then open it up for kweshtins, discussion, debate, et cetera. Or maybe you don't do it this way...
But just in case you do, I'll just ask - Would the author of this bill like to speak on his proposed piece of legislation?

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22ProvGov Senate Empty Re: ProvGov Senate on Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:19 pm

Christopher S.

Christopher S.
Administrator
Administrator
Yes, I would.

This bill is necessary for our Nation's Sovereignty. We need to keep the UN, although I thank them for their being willing to help stabilize our nation, out of our borders. I would gladly take their help, if I did not believe that many of our people would revolt as a result. We Americans tend to not trust the UN at all. So we must keep from starting a civil war, and I believe that allowing Peacekeepers to come in would only incite our people to violence.

Furthermore, I believe that we must pull all our troops back into our own nation. We do not have the luxury of helping out other nations militarily at this moment. So, let us pull our troops back home in order to help settle this anarchy.

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23ProvGov Senate Empty Re: ProvGov Senate on Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:54 pm

Persia

Persia
Squire
Squire
Thank you, Senator Christopher.

Are you now open for kweshtins from the other senators regarding your bill?

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24ProvGov Senate Empty Re: ProvGov Senate on Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:26 pm

gmx0

gmx0
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High Moderator
I think it be too specific. I would amend it to be expanded to all drug cartels, and also the US-Canadian border.

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25ProvGov Senate Empty Re: ProvGov Senate on Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:19 am

Christopher S.

Christopher S.
Administrator
Administrator
Persia wrote:Thank you, Senator Christopher.

Are you now open for kweshtins from the other senators regarding your bill?
Yes.
gmx0 wrote:I think it be too specific. I would amend it to be expanded to all drug cartels, and also the US-Canadian border.
I agree with the Senator from Ohio. I move to amend the bill to be the following:

AMERICAN PROVISIONAL GOVERNMENT
Committee:
Principal Author: Senator Christopher S.
Bill No: S. 1
Delegation:
Title of Bill: An Act to Strengthen National Sovereignty

BE IT ENACTED BY THE AMERICAN PROVISIONAL GOVERNMENT

Preamble: Whereas H.R.2 was passed and our military has begun to restore order to our nation, and our own military, along with our law enforcement officers, shall be able to deal with the current violence, and since we no longer need the help of the United Nations' Peacekeepers,
SECTION1: This bill may be called the, "American Sovereignty Act".
SECTION 2: The United States' Representative to the United Nations shall ask the United Nations to not send Peacekeepers to our nation. He shall show them how the violence is slowing and our forces are strong enough to bring back order and peace. However, he shall let the United Nations know that if the violence on our borders gets out of control, we shall ask for the aid of Peacekeepers.
SECTION 3: Smuggling drugs into the United States of America shall be considered treason against the United States and shall be punished accordingly. Aiding, or being a member of, a drug cartel, shall also be considered treason against the United States.
Sub-SECTION 1: The Military shall have the power to enforce this law.
Sub-SECTION 2: The Military shall have the power to bring criminals to trial at the proper Federal court who are suspected of or caught-
A) Smuggling drugs into the United States, or
B) Aiding or being a member of a drug cartel.
SECTION 4: Aiding or being a member of any anarchic organization, or any organization that violently defies the laws and sovereignty of the United States, shall be considered treason. The State Governors shall have the power to enforce this law and ask the Federal Military for assistance.
SECTION 5: All traffic between the U.S.-Mexican border shall be declared illegal. The punishment for crossing the border shall be:
Sub-SECTION 1: Instant deportment for the first offence,
Sub-SECTION 2: Fifteen years in Federal Prison for the subsequent offences.
SECTION 6: Thirty thousand military soldiers shall be sent to the U.S.-Mexican border in order to secure the border.
SECTION 7: All U.S. troops, including the Army, Navy, Marines, and Air Force, shall be evacuated from all foreign bases and posts. These bases shall be sold to the nations in which they reside. These soldiers shall be used to help quell the violence in our nation.
SECTION 8: With the money gained from the selling of foreign bases, a semi-private watchdog organization shall be set up. This organization shall:
Sub-SECTION 1: Investigate the corruption of government officials,
Sub-SECTION 2: Report their findings both to the Congress and to the State Governors.
The State Governors shall use these findings to convict and impeach these corrupt officials according to the laws of the several States.
SECTION 9: In order to discern the further needs of our military and how long the writ of Habeus Corpus needs to be suspended, two of our top Generals shall be called to speak before the House of Representatives and answer questions from Congressmen. They shall be called up three days after this bill is passed and shall remain in the House of Representatives until released by the House.
SECTION 10: This bill shall go into effect two days after passage.

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